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By: five fresh fish

There is a very high likelihood they will die or be crippled within a few years of marraige. If the culture is crippling and killing its young girls, it isn't going to have any useful mature women,...

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By: squirrel

I would argue, jamjam, that what you're mostly seeing is not psychopathology, but the intersection of ernest idealism and purposefully harsh realism. Both sides express rhetorical positions. I don't...

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By: fshgrl

Given where she's from I think it's pretty much a guarantee that she'd end up in an arranged marriage at some point anyway, so what does it matter when it happens? These are children. They are probably...

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By: jamjam

Sexual intercourse between a 50 year old (or any adult) male and a 9 year old or 11 year old girl is rape and torture. It also runs a very high probability of maiming the child victim for life and...

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By: nickyskye

Thanks fff, the link above that says "Herat" was meant to link not to a store selling Islamic women's clothing but here, a picture of the place as it used to be. There are some more photos of...

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By: Smedleyman

Fantastic post(s). Ergo, I have nothing to add. ...except...did anyone think of this after looking at the third link? (compare)

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By: five fresh fish

Awesome post, nickyskye! Thank you.

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By: asok

If you like getting upset by are interested in the treatment of women under the Taliban, why not watch Osama. It has child brides, beheadings and everything!

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By: anotherpanacea

One might say realistic fear of death is a form of suffering. Sure... but it's a fear shared by men and women, soldiers and civilians. Anybody in a war zone is in danger, especially in a country, like...

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By: jb

mdn - the English research comes from parish registers, which record baptisms, marriages and burials in a given parish. Similar sources (some much better) exist for other European countries c1500-1800....

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By: Deathalicious

Methylviolet writes: Isn't it interesting that abuses of women are "cultural" issues, while abuses of men are "human rights" issues? It's interesting, this rights terminology. Critics of the human...

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By: delmoi

I can't believe I'm typing this but I'm proud that my 9-year-old daughter does not know a thing about sex. That doesn't mean I'm not very open with her about the subject when it arises... Those two...

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By: fshgrl

Pregnancy and childbirth are the LEADING cause of death for girls age 15-19 in developing countries per UNICEF and OXFAM. Marraige to pre-pubescent, non-adult women is obviously not the norm in a...

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By: mdn

Before that, most men were apprentices, journeymen or servants in someone else's household - and as long as they lived in someone else's household, they held a subordinate, non-quite adult status....

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By: nickyskye

In 1975 I was 21 and hitched most of the way across the Middle East to India, spending a month in Afghanistan, travelling from one end, Herat, to the other, Kandahar and Kabul. I was deeply impressed...

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By: anotherpanacea

jb- That's very counter-intuitive research you're describing. Could you indicate where it's coming from? What's does the biography of a 26 year-old Victorian bride look like? I'm guessing that the...

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By: Lectrick

re: sex at 12 for boys I grew up in a wealthy neighborhood on Long Island (I mention this only because it may or may not have something to do with it) and I only knew a handful of guys who had had sex...

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By: bardic

anotherpanacea writes: Death is not suffering. Hold old are you? Has anyone you've known ever died?

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By: jack_mo

inactivistsaid'jack_mo, knowing what sex entails and understanding the full consequences of it are two different things. It seems cardoso was pointing at the latter.' It seemed to me he was saying that...

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By: jb

mdn - I am talking about the period c1300-1800 - but the best demographic evidence is from 1550-1800, the evidence for the earlier period is anecdotal and literary. Young teens marrying was very rare....

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